Re: Some password policy enforcement information questions

[Richard Megginson <rmeggins@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Bliss, Aaron wrote:

> Some more trouble with password expiration warnings; I have passwords
> warnings being displayed to users when they use passwords, however users
> configured to use key authentication
Do you mean ssh?

> do not receive this warnings; has
> anyone seen this before?  This is of course going to be a very big
> problem for me.  Any ideas?  Thanks again.
>  
>
> Aaron 
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bliss, Aaron 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 7:48 PM
> To: General discussion list for the Fedora Directory server project.
> Subject: RE:  Some password policy enforcement
> information questions
>
> Turns out the issue I was having was with my clients; I'm not sure why,
> but the administrator before me had "UseLogin Yes" set in
> /etc/ssh/sshd_config; commenting this out immediately started generating
> password warnings to users (as configured by the directory server); does
> anyone know what the UseLogin option is used for?  Thanks.
>
> Aaron 
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bliss, Aaron
> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 3:15 PM
> To: 'General discussion list for the Fedora Directory server project.'
> Subject: RE:  Some password policy enforcement
> information questions
>
> Thanks very much for the explanation; makes much sense to me now; I did
> some playing around, and got the directory server to spit out to me that
> your password is going to expire in x amount of days.  Thanks again.
>
> Aaron 
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fedora-directory-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:fedora-directory-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard
> Megginson
> Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 2:35 PM
> To: General discussion list for the Fedora Directory server project.
> Subject: Re:  Some password policy enforcement
> information questions
>
> It looks like the way it works is this:
> When you have enabled password warning, an operational attribute called
> "passwordExpWarned" is created in the user's entry.  The value will be 0
> until the user does a successful BIND operation and the time between now
> and the configured password expiration time is less than or equal to the
> configured password warning time.  When this happens, the warning will
> be sent, the value of passwordExpWarned will be changed to 1, and the
> operational attribute passwordExpirationTime in the user's entry will be
> set to the time at which the password will expire.  When the user
> changes the password, passwordExpWarned will be reset to 0 and
> passwordExpirationTime will be set to the new expiration time.
>
> Bliss, Aaron wrote:
>
>  
>
> > If I've configured a correct password policy and the warning attribute 
> > is not getting updated, should this be considered a bug?
> >
> > Aaron
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: fedora-directory-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:fedora-directory-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Richard
> >    
>
>  
>
> > Megginson
> > Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 1:48 PM
> > To: General discussion list for the Fedora Directory server project.
> > Subject: Re:  Some password policy enforcement 
> > information questions
> >
> > Bliss, Aaron wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >    
> >
> > > Please forgive me if I'm asking silly newbie questions, however I'm 
> > > trying to understand exactly what I'm seeing thru fds; first the 
> > > policy
> > >   
> > >
> > >      
> >
> >
> >    
> >
> > > I've configured on the directory using the fds console:
> > > I've enabled fine-grain password policy for the data unit, including 
> > > password history enforcement, password expiration after 90 days, 
> > > password warning 14 days before password expires, check password 
> > > syntax, account lockout policy enabled after 3 login failures for 120 
> > > minutes and reset failure count after 15 minutes.
> > >
> > > Everything seems to be working except for send password warning; in
> > >      
> the
>  
>
> > > client's ldap.conf file, I've enabled pam_lookup_policy yes.   
> > >
> > > Looking at account information attributes for a user, passwordexpwarnd
> > >      
>
>  
>
> > > value is 0; I've reset users password to try to initialize the 
> > > password
> > >   
> > >
> > >      
> >
> >
> >    
> >
> > > policy, however this value never seems to change.  According to this 
> > > documentation
> > > http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/dir-server/ag/7.1/password.html#107
> > > 7
> > > 0
> > > 81 I believe that this attribute is stored in seconds.  Is this true?
> > >
> > >
> > >   
> > >
> > >      
> > Yes.
> >
> >
> >
> >    
> >
> > > If so, what can I do to ensure this attribute is getting updated 
> > > (assuming that this is the attribute responsible for triggering 
> > > password expiration warning).
> > >
> > >
> > >   
> > >
> > >      
> > I'm not really sure.
> >
> >
> >
> >    
> >
> > > Second issue/question:
> > > I've looked at this wiki
> > > http://directory.fedora.redhat.com/wiki/Howto:PAM and near the very 
> > > bottom it mentions adding the following
> > >
> > > dn: cn=config
> > > changetype: modify
> > > add: passwordExp
> > > passwordExp: on
> > > -
> > > add: passwordMaxAge
> > > passwordMaxAge: 8640000 (this I believe would give a password max age 
> > > of 100 days)
> > >
> > > Do I need to add these attributes even though I've configured the 
> > > password policy using fds console has done this for me.  Is this the 
> > > case, I see don't these attributes in the gui, however I do see 
> > > passwordexpirationtime as an attribute and is set to 90 days from now 
> > > (I'm want to ensure that accounts are indeed locked after passwords 
> > > have expired).
> > >
> > >
> > >   
> > >
> > >      
> > Those attributes are only for global (default) password policy - what 
> > you have set for fine grained password policy will override those.
> >
> >
> >
> >    
> >
> > > Also, Jim Summers posted to this group that he saw an issue with 
> > > shadowpasswd / shadowexpire fields not being updated 
> > > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-directory-users/2005-December/m
> > > s
> > > g
> > > 00367.html
> > >
> > > Can anyone tell me what these fields are used for, as I don't see any 
> > > mention of them in this documentation
> > > http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/dir-server/ag/7.1/password.html#107
> > > 7
> > > 0
> > > 81
> > >
> > >
> > >   
> > >
> > >      
> > Right.  They are a PAM/posix thing - FDS treats them as any other data
> > - it doesn't update them from it's own password policy.
> >
> >
> >
> >    
> >
> > > Thanks again very much.
> > >
> > > Aaron
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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