On Saturday 01 November 2008 13:18:35 Mail Lists wrote: > On 11/01/2008 05:35 AM, Steven Moix wrote: > > This leads me to think that these statistics are probably biased? > > Could be - but that doesn't explain why its biased for F8 .. in fact > would you not expect more people to use smolt over time - as suspicion > fades about big brother etc ... Well, I don't think I've submitted smolt stats for this machine, but it still runs F8 for two reasons: 1. KDE4 just wasn't ready for me to use here for work. Fun to play with at home, but I couldn't imagine using it here without some workflow changes. The latest versions I've seen in Rawhide would be pretty much usable at work now, BUT ... 2. I can't use the latest snapshots or Rawhide on my system here because X (and the boot sequence unless I use "nomodeset nofb£ on the kernel command line) explodes, the OOPSes have gone to kerneloops.org, but the problem is, there is no support for soft-booting secondary video cards and I have three (all PCI) in this machine. Which helps me find bugs in xscreensaver ;o) So, I simply cannot upgrade it at the moment. I have a partition with Rawhide installed, and as long as I use the kernel command line magic to stop the radeon drm driver loading, and run X on a single screen without DRI, it works well enough to see that KDE is now really pretty (looks like my WindowMaker desktop c. 1998 ;o) but that's good). I would love to upgrade, it's sweet. > Then I imagine the KDE issue has prevented many from upgrading until > KDE 4.2 is out - too bad smolt cant easily answer the kde vs gnome usage > - its not just an install issue - need to scan for dates inside .kde and > .gnomeX perhaps - maybe ignore anything over X weeks old etc. Maybe > someone can figure out a way. Absolutely. I hung back waiting for F10 here, because I didn't find KDE4 to be ready for "production" use - but now I can't run it for other reasons. [ please no flamewar about kde4 - I like it but it wasn't ready to replace 3.5 *for me, in my working environment* yet; now, it looks like it is good enough, although I've not had a chance to investigate how well it works for multiple X heads, 'cause X don't work :o) ] -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
