Re: Fedora 8 most popular (then 7?)

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On Saturday 01 November 2008 13:18:35 Mail Lists wrote:
> On 11/01/2008 05:35 AM, Steven Moix wrote:
> > This leads me to think that these statistics are probably biased?
>
>   Could be - but that doesn't explain why its biased for F8 .. in fact
> would you not expect more people to use smolt over time - as suspicion
> fades about big brother etc ...

Well, I don't think I've submitted smolt stats for this machine, but it still 
runs F8 for two reasons:

1. KDE4 just wasn't ready for me to use here for work. Fun to play with at home, 
but I couldn't imagine using it here without some workflow changes. The latest 
versions I've seen in Rawhide would be pretty much usable at work now, BUT ...

2. I can't use the latest snapshots or Rawhide on my system here because X (and 
the boot sequence unless I use "nomodeset nofb£ on the kernel command line) 
explodes, the OOPSes have gone to kerneloops.org, but the problem is, there is 
no support for soft-booting secondary video cards and I have three (all PCI) in 
this machine. Which helps me find bugs in xscreensaver ;o)

So, I simply cannot upgrade it at the moment. I have a partition with Rawhide 
installed, and as long as I use the kernel command line magic to stop the 
radeon drm driver loading, and run X on a single screen without DRI, it works 
well enough to see that KDE is now really pretty (looks like my WindowMaker 
desktop c. 1998 ;o) but that's good). I would love to upgrade, it's sweet.

>   Then I imagine the KDE issue has prevented many from upgrading until
> KDE 4.2 is out - too bad smolt cant easily answer the kde vs gnome usage
> - its not just an install issue - need to scan for dates inside .kde and
> .gnomeX perhaps - maybe ignore anything over X weeks old etc. Maybe
> someone can figure out a way.

Absolutely. I hung back waiting for F10 here, because I didn't find KDE4 to be 
ready for "production" use - but now I can't run it for other reasons.

[ please no flamewar about kde4 - I like it but it wasn't ready to replace 3.5 
*for me, in my working environment* yet; now, it looks like it is good enough, 
although I've not had a chance to investigate how well it works for multiple X 
heads, 'cause X don't work :o) ]

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