Re: state of Fedora kernel and Desktop use?

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Valent Turkovic wrote:
Hi devels & all,
I'll be brief so not to take much of your time.

I read this article [1] about general Linux kernel development and how
desktop use is ignored by mainstream kernel developers, and how
desktop performance is suffering because of that.

I took out this quote to summarize:
"I think the kernel developers at large haven't got the faintest idea
just how big the problems in userspace are. It is a very small brave
minority that are happy to post to lkml, and I keep getting users
telling me on IRC, in person, and via my own mailing list, what their
problems are. And they've even become fearful of me, even though I've
never viewed myself as a real kernel developer."

What is the status of Fedora kernel regarding specific patches that
make desktop perform better? Is is true that mostly big vendor issues
get resolved and that kernel devels don't care enough for desktop
users?

Cheers,
Valent.

[1] http://apcmag.com/interview_with_con_kolivas_part_1_computing_is_boring.htm


We do plenty of desktop optimization. Con Kolivas was whining because we were being conservative about desktop optimizations that had a high risk of harming enterprise workloads, but the truth is that we're conservative about all optimizations that have a high risk of harming *any* workload, which is how we should be.

As for specific patches, we try to keep as close in sync with upstream as possible. Fedora-specific patches are more likely to be features that aren't quite ready for the vast range of kernel configurations possible upstream, but we're confident of in the limited configurations we use in Fedora. Performance optimizations tend to track rather closely. Some distributions use experimental patches that haven't been merged upstream to optimize for some specific workload, but Fedora is used far too widely for that, and the payoff of those patches is generally rather small anyway. For things that make a huge difference, there's enough motivation to get them upstream quickly, so we get them quickly too.

-- Chris

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