Re: Sendmail still default?

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Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
Le samedi 18 octobre 2008 à 12:03 -0500, Les Mikesell a écrit :

And did anyone have an actual problem with sendmail other than noticing it taking time to start the daemon in the boot sequence.

I think each one of us who've replaced sendmail with something else has
(despite years of RH/Fedora trying force sendmail through our throats).

Even back when postfix was just a powertools option people knew sendmail
was a poor default.

Sendmail was a poor default back when it always ran everything as root and accepted and delivered in the same process. Maybe you didn't notice that has changed or the enforced separation of the queuing and delivery steps.

As an engineer who likes neat technical stuff and contributes to Fedora
because it tends to produce neat technical stuff it makes me cringe each
time I'm reminded we ship sendmail instead of something properly
designed for an untrusted TCP/IP network world.

Ummm, when was the last time you saw a network exploit for sendmail? As I recall, postfix has also had some local exploits and probably more recently than sendmail.

You may extend years of hole-fixing and patch a sieve enough it sort of
floats but it's still a poor excuse of a boat. Even if passengers only
see the "it floats" bit.

You seem to have missed the sea change. And the capabilities added by the milter interface that it took the other contenders many years to duplicate properly.

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