On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 08:29 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 09:29 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > You are nit-picking at words. > > As was everybody who ever complained about the "minimal" install option > we had. > > > > > Though a Fedora installation with yum + rpm isn't "truely minimal", it's > > the minimal install to keep an installation usable/maintainable. > > Which is useful to some, too fat for others. Well, to me a "no-yum" installation is an ignorable extremal singular case. > > And yes, the fact yum pulls in python is a real problem on small > > systems. Even worse are the system-config-* tools, most of which pull in > > many more packages and don't even work without X. > > > > > Congratulations you've just walked > > > into a decade + argument. > > I don't see this. > > Probably because you haven't been on the front line, taking the bug > reports, talking to users at events, Right. > trying to tweak the targets to > match expectation and continually failing because there is no singular > expectation. Right, there is no singular expectation. But what Fedora currently offers is not even an approximation of a minimal install. What I am looking for as "minimal install", is a default configuration, which is just sufficient to boot up into a root shell and launch yum, such one can start to taylor an install set to personal demands. Ralf -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list