On 2008-10-10, 12:53 GMT, Itamar - IspBrasil wrote: > In my opinion fedora is losing space from centos and ubuntu a) If we are loosing to CentOS (which is a derivative of RHEL) then there is no loss to our community. b) If anybody is running production servers on Fedora, then worse for him -- Fedora is a developers' distro and that's the reason why it has limited support. If you think you want to revive Fedora Legacy project (which died for disinterest of its users), then I would suggest that you join CentOS -- I am quite certain they can use as many people helping as possible. c) Concerning Ubuntu. I am a Red Hat employee so I shouldn't talk lightly about our competition, so let me add only this thought. If you compare current Ubuntu with current Fedora (or maybe previous version of Fedora, because we tend to be slightly ahead -- which is both good and bad) then difference is only minimal. What I would be much more interested is difference between support for six years old distro (RHEL 2.1AS was released on 2002-03-26) on RHEL and Ubuntu. Yes, I know, there is no six-years old Ubuntu, and there never will be (LTS support is only five years on servers). However, still I would be interested in the level of support for Dapper Drake (6.06) now comparing with the level of support we provide for RHEL5 (that's roughly the same age, right?). How many patches in the last six months went to Dapper? I see on packages.ubuntu.com/firefox they still have firefox 1.5 (we have 3.* even for RHEL3). Supporting old distro is a huge undertaking (what about fixing bugs in kernel 2.4.9? That's is what we have in RHEL 2.1 -- and yes I see in our internal systems build from the last month, so it is still maintained) and jury is still out, whether Canonical will be able to do it. Best, Matej -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list