Re: tab completion less useful now, due to sbin in path

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On Wed, 2008-10-08 at 16:01 -0500, Callum Lerwick wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 08:33 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 01:25:26AM -0400, Jon Stanley wrote:
> > > The proper time to voice objections to this would have been there, 6
> > > weeks ago now.
> > 
> > Well, as I thought the discussion had been left before that meeting, fixing
> > the general problem of user-level commands in the wrong places was the
> > feature and it was going to be solved properly. The feature is called "sbin
> > sanity", and I'm 100% in support of that. The "ah, hell, just put everything
> > in the path and call that sane" change came as a surprise to me.
> 
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SbinSanity
> 
> And under Scope it says: "Change the default PATH to
> include /usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin for all users. Note that it must
> come at the end of the path for normal users, or consolehelper will
> break." According to the history, it's been there since at least May 24
> 2008, when it was imported from MoinMoin. A period of ~5 months.
> 
> If you're surprised by this, you simply aren't paying attention to the
> feature process. I've seen many emails go out on fedora-announce about
> the status of features, in which checking up on features you are
> interested in is a single click away.
> 
> Also notable, in the discussion section of the May 24 revision, since
> moved to the Talk page:
> 
> "Alternate approach: couldn't we just symlink commonly-used binaries
> into /bin or /usr/bin?
> 
> Yes, but this requires editing and rebuilding dozens of RPMs and
> constant argument about which binaries deserve special treatment. Lots
> more work for very little actual improvement."
> 
> No one in this thread is making any point that hasn't already been
> considered.
Correct, because none of these "alternatives" is discussworthy. Both are
equally broken.

Ralf




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