On Wed, 2008-10-08 at 16:01 -0500, Callum Lerwick wrote: > On Tue, 2008-10-07 at 08:33 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 07, 2008 at 01:25:26AM -0400, Jon Stanley wrote: > > > The proper time to voice objections to this would have been there, 6 > > > weeks ago now. > > > > Well, as I thought the discussion had been left before that meeting, fixing > > the general problem of user-level commands in the wrong places was the > > feature and it was going to be solved properly. The feature is called "sbin > > sanity", and I'm 100% in support of that. The "ah, hell, just put everything > > in the path and call that sane" change came as a surprise to me. > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SbinSanity > > And under Scope it says: "Change the default PATH to > include /usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin for all users. Note that it must > come at the end of the path for normal users, or consolehelper will > break." According to the history, it's been there since at least May 24 > 2008, when it was imported from MoinMoin. A period of ~5 months. > > If you're surprised by this, you simply aren't paying attention to the > feature process. I've seen many emails go out on fedora-announce about > the status of features, in which checking up on features you are > interested in is a single click away. > > Also notable, in the discussion section of the May 24 revision, since > moved to the Talk page: > > "Alternate approach: couldn't we just symlink commonly-used binaries > into /bin or /usr/bin? > > Yes, but this requires editing and rebuilding dozens of RPMs and > constant argument about which binaries deserve special treatment. Lots > more work for very little actual improvement." > > No one in this thread is making any point that hasn't already been > considered. Correct, because none of these "alternatives" is discussworthy. Both are equally broken. Ralf -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list