On Tue, 2008-09-30 at 19:38 -0700, Conrad Meyer wrote: > On Tuesday 30 September 2008 07:24:58 pm Matthew Miller wrote: > > We've just made the command line a lot less user friendly for common use in > > exchange for an ugly fix to a small inconvenience. *Any* chance of putting > > this back and working at fixing the problem the hard but correct way? > > This seems more a complaint that tab completion is different from what you're > used to. Many users feel the opposite (they add sbin to PATH in their > dotfiles) and won't notice the change. For users new to linux and Fedora, > sbin being in PATH gives them a better user experience than 'bash: foo: > command not found' errors when they try to follow some guide on the web. I guess I missed the first round of this discussion - but I agree with Matthew. Having commands on the path that a user can't execute: [msolberg@localhost ~]$ iptables -nL iptables v1.4.1.1: can't initialize iptables table `filter': Permission denied (you must be root) Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded. Is a worse experience than having to remember to type /sbin/ifconfig because it's normally a "rootly" command. This is Linux, after all. Michael. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list