Re: please deactivate services by default!

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Am Mittwoch, den 24.09.2008, 23:24 +0200 schrieb Linus Walleij:
> ons 2008-09-24 klockan 22:13 +0200 skrev Christoph Höger:
> 
> > I have some services found being activated by default that should be
> > removed for the following reasons:
> 
> Seems to match the findings from Arjans recent fastboot-excersise quite
> well.
> 
> > 1. sendmail: starts way too slow, is not usefull for any normal desktop
> > user I know. Making it usefull requires configuration so I assume
> > wohever uses that service _can_ activate it.
> 
> The server people and large installation maintainers really like these
> mails AFAIK, for desktop/laptop you administer yourself I never quite
> understood how to actually read them execept for
> less /var/spool/mail/root

# mail
or
# mutt

> 
> OK what's in there after a few months daily use on this self-managed
> desktop:
> 
> * logwatch disk space messages, and the diskspace is low, well wouldn't
> it be better to have this as a desktop popup like "you have mail"
> actually, mailing it to root sort of implies that you have someone else
> managing you disks/system.
> 
> * SELinux audit trail, reflecting normal usage and expected mistakes and
> yum updates (like I didn't know, only root can do them!)
> 
> Useful information for the use cases where end-user and administrator is
> seldom/never the same person. The admin will forward these mails to
> their main inbox or whatever and grep it for stuff they need to know I
> believe, and collect stats?
> 
> Then they could presumably also turn on this when they install the
> system and Fedora could leave it off in the default install, no?
> 
> Linus
> 


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