On Friday, 12 September 2008 at 21:46, Colin Walters wrote: > On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 3:43 PM, Janina Sajka <janina@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > The problems we have right now are sufficiently sever to be > > showstoppers. At the SpeakupModified.Org we recommend disabling > > pulseaudio. As things stand in F-9, one gets no audio until after a user > > logs in on the GUI. So, how are those who need screen reader support > > supposed to use the a11y features of GDM? As it stands, there seems no > > way to get console audio without that GUI login. Also a nonstarter in > > the screen reader user community. > > If you want to run terminal applications, can't you just log in to a > full screen gnome-terminal? I can, but that's irrelevant. Why do you want to take my ability to log in in text mode? > > It seems a useful initial step toward resolution is to run pulseaudio > > as a system daemon, via an init script, /sbin/service, /sbin/chkconfig. > > The trade-offs vs the per user model that F-9 employs are probably more > > than acceptable to most a11y users. > > > > So, let me simply ask ... Has anyone a working init script for > > pulseaudio as a system daemon? Anything close that we could continue to > > refine as an alternative configuration option for Fedora? > > We're going to be removing the legacy non-X system consoles by default > in the long run. Please tell me this is some kind of bad joke! Is Fedora becoming like MS Windows? Just when Microsoft announced that you'll be able to install Windows 7 without a GUI, you're announcing something opposite for Fedora? Are you going to drive away people who like the textmode better? Seriously, that would be one of the changes that would drive *me* away from Fedora. Please don't do that. I like Fedora too much and I've invested too much time in improving it for me. Regards, R. -- Fedora http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Rathann Livna http://rpm.livna.org | MPlayer http://mplayerhq.hu "Faith manages." -- Delenn to Lennier in Babylon 5:"Confessions and Lamentations" -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list