Re: FESCo Meeting Summary for 2008-08-20

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Alex Lancaster wrote:
"KH" == Karsten Hopp  writes:

[...]

It's very disappointing that this isn't considered a feature,
largely (so it seems from the IRC log) because the target audience
is considered "very limited".

Although provers are used only by a few experts to check that
software is correct, the benefits of using formally checked
software (functions, data structures, libraries, etc.) accrue to
all users of that software.
I hope that David & others working on this don't get discouraged
and this work continues, perhaps as a Fedora SIG.
Rich.

KH> +1, please don't get discouraged when FESCo rejects a feature
KH> proposal.
KH> Rejecting something as a feature doesn't mean that the package
KH> isn't accepted into fedora. It just means that it doesn't met the
KH> requirements described in
KH> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Policy/Definitions#Features.

Given FESCo's decision on this feature, I wonder how the Bioconductor
feature .   which packages a set of bioinformatics R add-on packages
would fare:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Bioconductor

It's similar in spirit to Fedora Electronic Lab, although I don't have
any actual data, I suspect a slightly larger target audience than
Provers. I am helping Pierre-Yves (aka pingou) with this feature.

You have to show why it's a feature.

* What work is Fedora doing to make this happen as opposed to merely packaging work done upstream?
* What makes the Feature more than a collection of packages?
* What kind of coherent plan is being laid out by the people driving this?
* Show how the Feature could be presented in the F10 release notes to higlight the work that Fedora has done. * Do the people working on the Feature care enough to show up and argue their case at the meeting?
* Remember to update your Feature page with all of your arguements.

python-nss was voted a feature in the end while provers were not. I happen to think this was mostly because that python-nss got better marketing than provers (which, to be fair, is what both of them wanted out of being an F-10 feature. If the marketing left FESCo wondering why it was a Feature it would also leave our end-users wondering why it was a Feature.)

-Toshio

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