Seth Vidal <skvidal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Thu, 2008-08-21 at 14:22 -0400, max wrote: > > Matthew Miller wrote: > > > On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 10:39:16AM -0400, Horst H. von Brand wrote: > > >> On philosophical grounds, I'm against forcing people forward, even for > > >> their own good... /encouraging/ them forward is a much better idea. > > > > > > It's not for their good. It's for *our* good as distribution developers and > > > as network citizens. > > > > > > And it's part of our responsibility: we're putting powerful software into > > > their hands and then not providing security updates for it for very long at > > > all. Turning off network access before they all become part of a gigantic > > > botnet is the right thing to do. > > Informing people of the dangers is the right thing to do, forcing them > > down your path is never the right thing to do. > unless you're a sysadmin for a large university, for example. Hum... if you mean the sysadmin in such a case /has/ to force-feed updates to the systems under her care (or be shot at dawn without trial), you are right. If you mean sysadmins at large universities should be forced to update the systems under their care, I'd guess they don't need any "forcing", they'll do it on their own (or pay dire consequences long before the next Fedora rolls along ;-) -- Dr. Horst H. von Brand User #22616 counter.li.org Departamento de Informatica Fono: +56 32 2654431 Universidad Tecnica Federico Santa Maria +56 32 2654239 Casilla 110-V, Valparaiso, Chile 2340000 Fax: +56 32 2797513 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list