Hi, After the recent SELinux discussion (and the several ones before it), it's pretty clear that users are having problems with SELinux but at the same time SELinux is an important aspect to system security so it isn't going anywhere. Instead of asking to turn SELinux off, let's work towards making SELinux "just work" since that will provide the good user experience and the extra security. I was thinking of ways that Fedora could improve user <--> SELinux interaction, and I thought that creating a kerneloops-like plugin for setroubleshoot would be a good way to collect data about denials. Similar to kerneloops, this would allow for statistics on where denials occur most and that way the policy can be modified accordingly. Ultimately, this leads to a better user experience with Fedora. I took a quick look at the setroubleshoot plugin system and it shouldn't be too hard to get this started but some extra more help would be great. Beyond this it would probably be good to rework the interface of system-config-selinux tool to make it easier to use for the average user. Sure, editing /etc/sysconfig/selinux is easy but the average user doesn't know how and shouldn't have to spend an hour trying to figure it out, especially if this is their first time using Linux. Feedback, ideas and comments are welcome. I'd like to know what you think before starting any work on any of this. Stewart -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list