On Mon, 2008-07-14 at 10:10 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: > Every package owned by xgl-maint that I know of has cvsextras+ set. > If there's a trivial bug in one of these packages, please, by all > means, fix it. Generally, is there a place to pool "easy" bugs that members of the cvsextras group could fix or escalate? (I couldn't find one). Specifically, there are a couple of F8 hal crasher bugs (#431377 and #452701). I've recently isolated existing upstream patches for them, but they need an errata/backport to F8. I reckon accepted upstream patches probably means they're "easy". Is this the sort of thing the cvsextras group can deal with? I'm doubtless being unfair to the hal package maintainer - it may well all be in hand - but I'm tainted by my experience of a pilot-link fix being blocked for 5 months on a hal update; even advice/a response from the hal maintainers would have been endlessly helpful (it was left NEEDINFO). I find it particularly odd given that hal is key to systems operation. I'm sure it happens because of the very understandable swamping reasons Adam mentions... but nonetheless, as someone who's been trying to solve the odd problem and provide the odd patch here and there, it's quite frustrating and disheartening to have your efforts stalled - or even undone - by these non-technical issues. Yeah, I know that's just how life is ;) I say, I only dug up the upstream patches recently. Perhaps I'd have done this at an earlier point, and would certainly be encouraged to do so again in the future, if I were more confident they'd make it into the package in a timely manner. So perhaps what's needed is a mechanism for a trusted group (cvsextras?) to enact what are essentially solved bugs? If they don't feel confident about applying and pushing a fix, then at least the package maintainer should be left with a smaller "non-easy" bug list. Regards, kev. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list