On Wed, 2008-07-09 at 16:33 -0700, John Poelstra wrote: > Thorsten Leemhuis said the following on 07/09/2008 > > So is the most of the Feature process (and especially FESCo's approval) > > useless overhead? It looks to me that the answer tends to be "yes" as > > long as big features like this can easily creep in without going through > > the established approval process, as long as the feature gets added to > > rawhide early enough in the devel cycle. > > I think you've overlooked some of its benefits: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Policy#Background > > including the HUGE amount of equivalent marketing dollars the pages help > drive which Paul mentioned at FUDCon. > > I'd argue the return on investment is there. On top of the measurable part, there were a very large proportion -- I'd say it was fully half, out of more than a dozen interviews I gave for the Fedora 9 release -- where journalists asked direct questions about specific features. They almost always prefaced it by saying, "I read the feature pages on the wiki, which were really good. I was hoping you could explain further...". > > Just wondering. No, I really don't want to stop the new RPM; there are > > likely other examples (say OpenOffice 3.0) in rawhide (but going > > backwards there as hard as with RPM). But I'm more and more wondering if > > the complex Feature process is worth all the trouble and effort. The > > best thing that came out of it in F9 IMHO were the good release notes > > and great "whats new" pages. But I'd say we can have that easier. > > I'm all ears. What are your specific ideas for a more effective process > so it is worth all the "trouble and effort"? > > We've spent a lot of time up until now trying to get to a useful > process, including the public reviews of the process we have at the > start of each release. More participation and concrete suggestions from > people like you would be greatly appreciated :) -- Paul W. Frields gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://paul.frields.org/ - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug
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