On Wed, 2008-07-02 at 17:48 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: > 1) you are not the average user, your experience is biased and your > usage patterns are not standard I agree I'm not a "typical user", however some of the things I've had problems with are being used by typical users - I'm deliberately trying to avoid examples of copying configuration files and the like :) > Take your time, learn what SELinux is and help back to make it better my > providing changes relative to packages you own or you use most. This > will be abetter use of your time. I'm all for helping to find and fix policy issues - why do you think I left it enabled :) I've followed SELinux on and off for about a decade, though this is the first time I've tried enforcing on a "desktop" box. And I feel that my previous reasoning for turning it off on my desktops and laptops is once again justified...unfortunately. > I wonder if windows developers had the same attitude toward NTFS ACLs > when Microsoft started transitioning them from FAT ... I think us Linux > devs can handle SELinux, conceptually and practically. That's a lousy example. I use Linux ACLs and have done since long before they were upstream and in stock vendor kernels - ACLs are great, and we're not shipping a complex default set of ACLs anyway :) Let's compare apples and apples :) Jon. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list