On Wed, Jul 02, 2008 at 04:46:35PM -0400, Jon Masters wrote: > If it were really black and white like that, then I'd have to argue for > SELinux to be disabled by default on new Fedora installs and have users > go into the system config dialog to turn it back on. After all, if > you're going to use the following argument: "This car has brakes, enable them ?" "Would you like the seatbelts to work ?" "Shall I enable the airbag ?" > Then consider, those who know what SELinux is are more likely to know > about that dialog, and therefore more likely to turn it on. If you don't > like that, then I suggest giving thought to re-instating the option :) One of the Gnome talks summed this up nicely long ago - how do most users see dialogue boxes like that - the answer is as random noise you hit the yes button too. SELinux should be disablable is the wrong discussion. The discussion you should be having is "I've filed a few bugs where SELinux didn't magically do the right thing, how do we fix them and can we make these less likely to occur in future" If it was a car this discussion ie - "I had a brake problem so I disabled them" would not be considered sane Alan -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list