On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 2:34 AM, Bill Crawford <billcrawford1970@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Um, maybe disabling the testing repo and running package-cleanup > --orphans would help? > > [ answer: not necessarily; but it should then exclude stuff that's > already been pushed to stable ] I am reasonable clued in on how to heuristically figure out what I am running for testing. Trying to out pedantic me is a losing proposition, and utterly not the point I trying to make. If we want a noticable uptick in the number of people using bodhi, we need to drive the necessarily information to interact with bodhi into the default UI. There is a substantial lack of 'timely' communication to our users regarding our desire to have them interact with bodhi. We fail at communicating a consistent message. If we want to see the karma system really used, we'll need to encourage people to use updates-testing and have an easy way for people to know that we desire their feedback on the packagins installed from updates-testing. Only the rarest of people are going to really enjoy crafting special scripted queries with yum or repoquery with magic incantations on the cmdline. And these are the same breed of people who are going to attempt to crack bodhi's capcha system so they can script a karma bump because they in fact loath any and all graphical interface approach and would prefer that all activity could be non-interactively scripted on system whose only user application not run from cron is vi. In fact I could already be working on that. -jef"2 hours into a 30 hour trip from Fairbanks,US to Sydney,AU."spaleta -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list