Hi, I must share this report with you. I don't use Ubuntu but I installed it on one PC in a lab for students and kids to learn using it (we have half Fedora and half Ubuntu lab). I opened Firefox and went to www.redhatmagazine.com and immediately I got a pop up window with a choice to install Adobe Flash, Swhdec or Gnash plugin. I was amazed how well this worked and that I had a choice to pick any one plugin that I believe it better. I know about Fedora's upstream mentality but I must take my hat to Ubuntu devels for making their "Ubuntu plugin service" work great. I know that this is what Mozilla should have made but with their track for supporting linux isn't the best one. And also I see some projects that fedora made and didn't wait for the others but fedora and red hat devels made them because they were missing (pulseaudio, networkmanager, and lots of others...) so does it make sense to you that Fedora makes also "Fedor plugin service" for Fedora 10 or do you believe that if it is not in Firefox by default than Fedora should not touch it in anyway? Why? Cheers, Valent. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list