On Tue, 2008-05-20 at 19:52 -0400, Jason Tang wrote: > Dave Airlie wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-05-20 at 17:23 -0400, Jason Tang wrote: > > > >> The only problem being that this release is incompatible with current > >> nvidia drivers. Granted, I'm aware of the Fedora position regarding > >> non-OSS, but this Xorg issue has completely destroyed many user's > >> confidence in the dev team. > >> > >> Most users could care less about supposed 'valid' reasons - that fact > >> is: No 3D acceleration == No F9 adoption (or worse, an eroding user > >> base). Lets not play this game with F10. > >> > >> > > > > Let me just state, this is not going to happen ever. If you want hold > > your desktop ransom to a large binary piece of software, I'm sure > > Microsoft will sell you an OS more suited to your needs. > > > > Fedora is about having an open distro and we are *never* going to expend > > time or effort to support a binary driver. I say this as the > > co-maintainer of X.org for Fedora. Fedora is not ajax's or mine primary > > reason for being paid, we really wish it was. However even if Fedora was > > the only thing I was scheduled to work on, I would still not expend even > > one small shred of effort to support a binary driver running on this OS. > > You buy hardware with closed source you now get to keep both bits. > > > > unsure if I can clarify this any better. > > > > Dave. > > > > > > > > > Believe it or not - I do agree with Fedora's OSS principles. However, > as the professional I know you are (despite the tone of your reply), I'm > sure you can understand the importance of hardware compatibility. > Nobody is saying you need to bend over backwards for nvidia, but > actively working to break support probably isn't the right approach > either. Surely you can find a way to collaborate with X.org, Nvidia and > the Fedora team in a way that promotes progress, rather than stifle it. > > We already know a way, its called open source development. They release the source to their driver, and I make it work with the release of X.org I personally ported nearly all the X.org driver in Fedora to the new API/ABI (~15 drivers). This was close too a full week of work, that really I could've not done and just let old hardware die. However I took the time to do this because the source was available. If I had the source to the nvidia driver I would have ported it as well. So I've done the professional bit and fixed as much as I can, if *your* hw vendor doesn't support *your* OS of choice then I think the problem is between you and your hw vendor. Dave. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
