Re: changes at planet fedora

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2008/5/20 Jon Stanley <jonstanley@xxxxxxxxx>:
> On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Mark <markg85@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> 2008/5/19 seth vidal <skvidal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>>> Hi all,
>>>  I'm making some changes with how we build up the list of folks/rss
>>> feeds for the fedora planet. We're making it more self-service and a bit
>>> easier to maintain for the admin group (and specifically easier for me
>>> to put up with). For all the people currently on the planet please
>>> follow these instructions to make sure your feed stays on there:
>>>
>>> http://skvidal.fedorapeople.org/docs/planet-addition.html
>>>
>>> These instructions will be added to the wiki after the wiki migration
>>> happens next week.
>>>
>>> Let me know what problems you have, too.
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> -sv
>>>
>>
>> To comment on the new rules you've made:
>
> There are no new rules, just an administrative change to allow
> self-service administration of the Planet.
>>
>>   1.  As a fedora contributor you have to have a Fedora Account
>> System account, have signed the cla and be a member of at least one
>> other group in FAS.
>>
>> I strongly disagree on this one!! A person that writes a lot about
>
> I think the "one other group" was added, but this is due to the fact
> that you don't get a fedorapeople.org account until you're a member of
> one other group. The CLA has always been required.
>
>> fedora and thus deserves to be on the planet list doesn't need to be
>> registered (or wants to register) at fedora so that you people can say
>> your community is growing (because that WILL happen when a high fedora
>> person gets interviewed and gets asked about the community behind it
>> whether you want it or not). I personally didn't register there yet
>> because the registration system asks things of me that i don't want to
>> supply or don't feel like i need to supply them thus won't register
>> until it either changes or when i'm up to put the time in it to get it
>> all done.
>
> There's not too much time involved in getting a FAS acct these days.
> You need probably an SSH key (in order to use the fedorapeople
> services), and a click-through CLA.
>
>>   2. Next, you need to login to your fedorapeople.org account. Use
>> your ssh key you uploaded into the FAS to do this.
>>
>> don't quite get this one but is releated to the FAS which i disagreed
>> so i disagree on this one as well..
>
> This is where the configuration happens.  Your fedorapeople.org
> account is a shell account that all Fedora contributors receive a
> 150MiB quota at.  So you have to login to that shell account and
> create a file.
>>
>>   3. You need to create a .planet file in your homedir. The content
>> of the file should be like this:
>>
>> Interesting.. you are asking things of the user to do (besides posting
>> fedora stuff) so that they can be on the planet list.. i understand
>> why you want it but again don't agree on this one. Why do you ask of a
>> user to do this? if a user has a blog on some place where he doesn't
>> have access to upload files (like blogspot and wordpress) then the
>> user, which might have very good fedora articles, can't get on the
>> planet.. I would drop this rule if i where you and put it in the
>> fedora accounting system if a user needs to register there anyway..
>> You probably look for the .planet file anyway and save it in a
>> database.
>
> The .planet file is in your home directory on fedorapeople.org, not on
> your blog.  Anyone can make a file in their home directory on this
> machine.  This has been done in order to decentralize administration
> from Seth having to do everything, to allowing self-service (a great
> thing IMO).  If your feed URL were to change, then you could update it
> yourself rather than asking for it to be done.
>
>> Don't get me wrong! i like the planet thing and look ther quite often
>> but dislike the rules you've just put on them (not that i want to
>> submit my blog).
>> I would be surprised if this is gonna work! seems like you simply ask
>> to much of a user for them to only have there blog indexed on some
>> kind of a planet site. Also a person that hates fedora might get on
>> the planet with this automated system.
>
> That's not a huge issue, content would be subject to review anyway.
> Feeds can be disabled if need be.
>
Oke all that information made me change my mind a bit about it.. I
still don't think it's a good idea but at least it's not a horrible as
i thought it was. I still don't like it that you need to have a fedora
account to be part of the planet.. seems odd to me.

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