nodata (lsof@xxxxxxxxxxxx) said: > So can you log them instead? (expletives goe here) Yes, because cursing in people's faces is the best way to get your issues' attention. Yes, it's still not there. Yes, it sucks. Yes, I'm in some respects to blame. Once we get a solution that: - doesn't slow down boot excessively - doesn't cause issues with SELinux - actually works sanely it will be fixed. FYI, fixing this with upstart's logging was investigated during Fedora 9, but that was even *more* broken. Bill -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list