On Tue, 2008-05-06 at 09:54 +0100, Andrew Haley wrote: > Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > On Mon, 2008-05-05 at 17:50 +0100, Andrew Haley wrote: > >> Christopher Aillon wrote: > >>> On 05/05/2008 11:48 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > >>>> This step is way over due. It also will teach maintainers not run the > >>>> autotools while building. > >>> It will also teach maintainers not to use Fedora for doing upstream work. > >> I agree. This proposal seems to be all pain for no gain. > > The fact Fedora ships gcc-4.3.0 is all pain for no gain. > > Certainly not! There's been a bunch of useful improvements, as you'll see > on the gcc web page. No disagreement, but .. there also are a lot of changes, which require developers to change/update/rework their sources. > > Please add versions of gcc of all active GCC-branches, such that people > > can continue to use f77 and c++'s backward stuff. > > > > Also consider adding a version of gcc which ships still supports libg++. > > > > Do you sense the insanity? > > I don't think this is a relevant comparison. Why? You are using a dead piece of SW called autoconf-2.13, others are using a dead piece of SW called gcc-2.7.2/egcs or libg++ or gcc-3.x.- The only difference is RH playing nice to people using outdated autotools and pushing around people using outdated c/c++ code or features/miss-features from older gcc's. In fact, you are aggressively forcing Fedora based developers to rework their c/c++/fortran-code or to quit using Fedora, but you refuse to fix your autotools-code? Double-standards! > Most importantly, gcc is a large > package, so there is a considerable cost to shipping more than one version. > > As has been pointed out, this FESCo proposal is mere make-work for no purpose. > It serves only to distract maintainers from doing something useful. To the same extend as gcc-4.3.0 does - It might have escaped you, but other distros do have alternative toolchains. Of cause their would be middle-grounds ... but I don't sense any interest on your (@RH) part to develope/find one. Ralf -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
