> How comes you expect each and every tool in Fedora but the autotools to > be "current". That's it! OK, by Fedora 10 we need to start removing all sorts of not 'current' things that aren't up to modern standards. First, toolkits! We need to remove gtk1, qt3, and for pete's sake, Xaw and Xaw3d. All are obsolete, and users and developers are best served by upgrading to more recent toolkits such as Qt4 and GTK2. The following 258 packages need ported by Fedora 10, or they will be removed: aasaver-0.3.2-3.fc9 agistudio-1.2.3-7.fc9 amarok-1.4.8-5.fc9 amarokFS-0.5-3.fc9 apollon-1.0.1-13.fc9 aqbanking-2.3.3-3.fc9 arts-1.5.9-2.fc9 avahi-0.6.22-10.fc9 basket-1.0.2-5.fc9 bibletime-1.6.5-4.fc9 bitmap-1.0.3-4.fc9 bluecurve-kde-theme-1.0.0-3.fc9 bouml-4.2-2.fc9 brltty-3.9-2.2.fc9 bubblemon-1.46-8.fc9 camstream-0.26.3-12.fc8 cernlib-2006-29.fc9 cernlib-g77-2006-29.fc9 CGAL-3.3.1-11.fc9 clips-6.24-25.fc9 compizconfig-backend-kconfig-0.7.2-1.fc9 crossfire-1.10.0-4.fc9 crossfire-client-1.10.0-4.fc9 crossvc-1.5.2-4.fc9 crystalspace-1.2-4.fc9 dbus-qt3-0.8-5.fc9 ddd-3.3.11-18.fc9 digikam-0.9.3-2.fc9 dillo-0.8.6-7.fc9 djvulibre-3.5.20-2.fc9 doxygen-1.5.5-3.fc9 dssi-0.9.1-14.fc9 exim-4.69-4.fc9 faad2-2.6.1-3.lvn9 filelight-1.0-12.fc9 foobillard-3.0a-6 freedroidrpg-0.10.3-2.fc9 fwbuilder-2.1.16-2.fc9 gambas2-2.5.0-1.fc9 gcin-1.3.9-2.fc9 gcombust-0.1.55-13 gcx-0.9.11-3.fc9 gdk-pixbuf-0.22.0-36.fc9 genchemlab-1.0-9.fc9 gentoo-0.11.56-6 glglobe-0.2-6.fc9 gnash-0.8.2-2.fc9 gnome-libs-1.4.2-8.fc9 gpicview-0.1.9-1.fc9 gpsd-2.37-2.fc9 graphviz-2.16.1-0.5.fc9 groff-1.18.1.4-14.fc9 gsview-4.8-2.lvn6 gtk+-1.2.10-61.fc9 gxine-0.5.11-17.fc9 HippoDraw-1.21.1-4.fc9 hydrogen-0.9.3-13.fc9 imlib-1.9.15-7.fc9 isdn4k-utils-3.2-58.fc9 jabbin-2.0-0.6.beta2a.fc9 k3b-1.0.4-6.fc9 k3b-extras-nonfree-1.0.4-2.lvn9 k9copy-1.2.2-1.lvn9 kadu-0.6.0-3.fc9 kaffeine-0.8.6-4.fc9 kasablanca-0.4.0.2-12.fc9 katapult-0.3.2.1-3.fc9 kbackup-0.5.3-4.fc9 kbibtex-0.2-14.fc9 kbilliards-0.8.7b-7.fc9 kbiof-0.3-3.fc9 kcemirror-0.1.5-4.fc9 kdbg-2.1.0-2.fc9 kdeaddons-3.5.9-1.fc9 kdebase3-3.5.9-10.fc9 kdebluetooth-1.0-0.41.beta8.fc9 kdegames3-3.5.9-1.fc9 kdelibs3-3.5.9-8.fc9 kdepim-3.5.9-9.fc9 kdesvn-0.14.1-4.fc9 kdetv-0.8.9-10.fc9 kdevelop-3.5.1-4.fc9 kdewebdev-3.5.9-3.fc9 kdiff3-0.9.92-13.fc9 kdirstat-2.5.3-8.fc9 kdissert-1.0.7-4.fc9 kdocker-1.3-11.fc9 kerry-0.2.1-7.fc9 kflickr-0.9.1-2.fc9 kftpgrabber-0.8.1-6.fc9 kickpim-0.5.3-14.fc9 kile-2.0-4.fc9 kinput2-v3.1-38.fc9 kio_p7zip-0.3.1-7.fc9 kiosktool-1.0-10.fc9 kio_sword-0.3-6.fc9 kipi-plugins-0.1.5-0.6.rc2.fc9 kita-0.177.3-12.fc9.2 klamav-0.42-3.fc9 kleansweep-0.2.9-7.fc9 klear-0.7.0-1.svn113.fc9 klibido-0.2.5-10.fc9 kmobiletools-0.4.3.3-4.fc9 kmplayer-0.10.0c-4.fc9 kmymoney2-0.8.9-1.fc9 knetstats-1.6.1-8.fc9 koffice-1.6.3-15.fc9 komparator-0.9-1.fc9 kompose-0.5.3-12.fc9 konversation-1.0.1-6.fc9 kooldock-0.4.6-4.fc9 kover-3-3 koverartist-0.5-11.fc9 kphotoalbum-3.1.1-1.fc9 kplayer-0.6.2-3.lvn8 kpolynome-0.1.2-12.fc9 kpowersave-0.7.3-3.fc9 krecipes-0.9.1-9.fc9 kreetingkard-0.7.1-2.fc9.2 krename-3.0.14-4.fc9 krusader-1.80.0-5.fc9 kscope-1.6.1-4.fc9 ksensors-0.7.3-16.fc9 kshutdown-1.0.1-2.fc9 ksirk-1.7-6.fc9 ksshaskpass-0.4-2.fc9 kst-1.5.0-3.fc9 ksynaptics-0.3.3-5.fc9 ktechlab-0.3.69-5.fc8 kyum-0.7.5-11.fc9 LabPlot-1.5.1.6-4.fc8 lame-3.97-6.lvn8 libglade-0.17-21.fc9 libkdcraw-0.1.3-2.fc9 libkexif-0.2.5-4.fc9 libkexiv2-0.1.6-4.fc9 libkipi-0.1.5-4.fc9 libopensync-plugin-kdepim-0.35-2.fc9 libquicktime-1.0.2-2.lvn9 libsvm-2.86-12.fc9 libsx-2.05-15.fc9 libXaw-1.0.4-2.fc9 licq-1.3.5-1.fc9 lineak-kdeplugins-0.9-4.fc9 linpsk-0.9-3.fc9 logjam-4.5.3-22.fc9 manedit-0.8.1-3.fc9 metamonitor-0.4.5-5.fc9 moto4lin-0.3-6.fc7 museek+-0.1.13-3.fc9 MyPasswordSafe-0.6.7-4.20061216.fc9 nas-1.9.1-4.fc9 ncl-5.0.0-11.fc9 ncview-1.92e-13.fc9 netgo-0.5-10.fc9 nethack-3.4.3-17.fc9 ngspice-17-14.fc9 normalize-0.7.7-2.lvn6 ogre-1.4.7-2.fc9 ois-1.0-4.fc9 oooqs2-1.0-3.fc6 openbox-3.4.6.1-1.fc9 OpenSceneGraph-2.2.0-5.fc9 oprofile-0.9.3-17.fc9 pdfedit-0.3.2-4.fc9 pic2aa-0.2.1-3.fc9 pikdev-0.9.2-6.fc9 piklab-0.15.0-1.fc9 pikloops-0.2.5-3.fc9 pinentry-0.7.4-5.fc9 plotutils-2.5-5.fc9 plt-scheme-372-1.fc9 purple-plugin_pack-2.3.0-1.fc9 putty-0.60-3.fc9 PyKDE-3.16.1-1.fc9 PyQt-3.17.4-4.fc9 qalculate-kde-0.9.6-5.fc9 qascade-0.1-10.fc9 qca-1.0-10.fc9 qcad-2.0.5.0-8.fc9 qca-tls-1.0-13.fc9 qcomicbook-0.4.0-2.fc9 qfaxreader-0.3.1-9.fc9.3 qgo-1.5.4r2-1.fc9 qiv-2.0-9.fc9 qps-1.9.19-0.2.b.fc7 qpxtool-0.6.1-9.fc9 qstars-0.4-6.fc9 qsynth-0.2.5-7.fc9 qt3-3.3.8b-12.fc9 qt-4.3.4-11.fc9 qtparted-0.4.5-18.fc9 qt-qsa-1.1.5-5.fc9 quadkonsole-2.0.2-3.fc9 qucs-0.0.14-1.fc9 qwtplot3d-0.2.7-6.fc9 rekall-2.4.6-4.fc9 rosegarden4-1.6.1-2.fc9 rsibreak-0.8.0-5.fc9 scigraphica-2.1.0-6.fc9 scim-bridge-0.4.15-5.fc9 scim-qtimm-0.9.4-10.fc9 scribus-1.3.4-5.fc9 showimg-0.9.5-16.fc9 siril-0.8-4.fc9 six-0.5.3-9.fc9 smart-0.52-54.fc9 smb4k-0.9.3-2.fc9 smpeg-0.4.4-11.lvn6 SoQt-1.4.1-9.fc9 soundtracker-0.6.8-2.fc6 spacechart-0.9.5-1.fc9 subcommander-1.2.2-12.fc9 synce-kde-0.9.1-3.fc9 t1lib-5.1.2-2.fc9 taskjuggler-2.4.0-7.fc9 taxipilot-0.9.2-6.fc9 tellico-1.3.1-1.fc9 tideEditor-1.4.1-2.fc9 transcode-1.0.5-2.lvn9 twinkle-1.2-2.fc9 uim-1.4.2-3.fc9 unixODBC-2.2.12-7.fc9 valknut-0.3.11-4.fc9 vtk-5.0.4-21.fc9 wlassistant-0.5.7-7.fc9 wordtrans-1.1-0.5.pre13.fc9 wpa_supplicant-0.6.3-5.fc9 x3270-3.3.6-5.fc9 xarchon-0.50-7.fc9 xawtv-3.95-8.fc9 xboard-4.2.7-17.fc9 xdrawchem-1.9.9-9.fc9 xfig-3.2.5-10.fc9 xkeycaps-2.46-7.fc9.3 xmms-1.2.10-38.fc9 xmms-acme-0.4.3-9 xmms-adplug-1.2-7.fc9 xmms-alarm-0.3.7-7.fc9 xmms-flac-1.1.4-4.fc9 xmms-lirc-1.4-12 xmms-mp3-1.2.10-5.lvn6 xmms-musepack-1.2-6.fc9 xmms-sid-0.8.0-0.5.beta17.fc9 xmms-speex-0.9.1-13 xorg-x11-apps-7.3-3.fc9 xorg-x11-resutils-7.1-5.fc9 xorg-x11-server-1.4.99.901-26.20080415.fc9 xorg-x11-server-utils-7.3-3.fc9 xorg-x11-utils-7.3-3.fc9 xorg-x11-xdm-1.1.6-3.fc9 xorg-x11-xkb-utils-7.2-4.fc9 xorg-x11-xsm-1.0.2-7.fc9 xosd-2.2.14-11.fc9 xterm-234-1.fc9 xtide-2.10-2.fc9 xvattr-1.3-15 yoltia-0.22.1-2.fc9 Next step, languages. (That can follow in a different mail.) After all, who needs old stuff like tcl, fortran, or Ada when we have python, ruby, and C? Bill -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list