On Sun, 2008-04-27 at 18:01 +0400, Peter Lemenkov wrote: > 2008/4/27 Hans de Goede <j.w.r.degoede@xxxxxx>: > > Peter Lemenkov wrote: > I can't fill bugzilla ticket because I just don't know exactly to what > component this issue must be assigned - xorg-x11, some particular > driver, some middleware layer as pango/gtk/qt/etc, maybe this is bug > in freetype or somethere - I don't know. > > I can't submit this bug for a list of possible components - I need to > choose something (and probably I will make a wrong choose since I'm > not a specialist in X.org architecture) > > This is a issue with a communication part - I can't describe my > problem with a more freeform text than bugzilla permits (only one > version of distro, only one particular component, only maintainer(s) > of current one component). On the other hand bugzilla, this Monster > from the 90ies provides us many completely useless (for simple users, > Average Joe as me, for example) combinations of > Priority/Severity/Status and Resolution. I think that must be only two > of them - opened/closed... > > Summarizing things - I shouting that bugzilla in no way a suitable > solution for filling bugs for users then they are don't know anything > about internals of issue. More to say - they must look at the Bugzilla > as a Labyrinth designed for hiding the solutions within. Bugzilla does not require you to know to know that much. When it comes to components, you don't need to know. Last time I checked it read: "If necessary, just guess". And when comes to version of the distro, you can easily determine it by clicking "System" and choosing "About fedora". I also believe the version number is visible somewhere during the boot. For other field that bother you, such as "Priority" or "Severity" my advice for you is: Don't be bothered by them if you don't know what they do. Do not touch them. > Fedora tends to be overbloated. More and more dependencies are coming. > For example - my bluetooth mouse need a half part of samba to work - > can you imagine that? Hm I am wondering why gvfs depends on 50M samba-common. Maybe the samba dependent part could be made into a subpackage? Could you please file a bug report? It would be a nice exercise of filing tickets in Bugzilla, you can utilize the hints from above :o) > Funny but I more and more time spending working in Mac environment > (because of the Fedora issues). One note - Safari complains about > bugzilla's query pages (looks like nobody tested them in Safari) Noone has to use Safari. In fact, it is usually a pretty bad idea to do so. However it might be nice to have it working there... -- Lubomir Kundrak (Red Hat Security Response Team) -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list