On Wed, 23 Apr 2008, Thomas M Steenholdt wrote: > Mike Cronenworth wrote: > > No. It will promote proper program installation paths. Right now we > > basically have "Security Through Obscurity," which I thought was frowned > > upon in our world. > > This has exactly nothing to do with security and all to do with minimizing > confusion/complexity for users vs providing convenient access to system tools. $ ls /usr/bin/|wc -l 2533 $ ls /usr/sbin/|wc -l 374 Sure. 11% "more complexity" to be exact. And now imagine the enduser needs to know it's internal IP. NetworkManager doesnt display it. The user will need to go back to the command line and type "ifconfig" which of course then has to be "/sbin/ifconfig" (or rather, thanks to the avahi setup in f9, the user will have to type "ip addr list"). There is no reason to not give users the sbin's, and yes, it is the first thing I do on a new system too. The second thing is to remove the alias for cp,rm and mv. Here not the enduser, but the superuser, is protected against itself. Why not provide "undelete" too :P Paul -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list