> -----Original Message----- > From: fedora-devel-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:fedora-devel-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Shawn Starr > Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 1:14 PM > To: Development discussions related to Fedora > Subject: RE: Adding /sbin and /usr/sbin to everyone's path in F10 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > [mailto:fedora-devel-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of > Richard W.M. > > Jones > > Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 11:58 AM > > To: Development discussions related to Fedora > > Subject: Re: Adding /sbin and /usr/sbin to everyone's path in F10 > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 11:30:31AM -0400, Tom spot Callaway wrote: > > > I propose that we add /sbin and /usr/sbin to the path for > > normal users > > > (as well as root) for F10? There are plenty of useful tools > > in there for > > > non-root users (ifconfig, fdisk, parted), and IMHO, any tool which > > > assumes the user is root because it lives in /sbin is > fundamentally > > > broken. The LSB doesn't mandate this (at least, not > > anywhere I can see), > > > so I propose that we just do it. > > > > > > Anyone opposed to such an action? > > > > FWIW, Debian doesn't have these in normal users' PATH, but > does change > > the PATH to include them when you do 'su'. > > > > On a Debian system: > > > > $ echo $PATH > > > /home/rich/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games > > $ su > > Password: > > # echo $PATH > > > > /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/ > > usr/bin/X11 > > > > I don't know how Debian does this, but it's extremely useful. > > > > Rich. > > > > -- > > Richard Jones, Emerging Technologies, Red Hat > > They use (this comes from /etc/login.defs) > > ENV_SUPATH > PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin > ENV_PATH PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games > > I am not sure though if the PAM modules also read login's > /etc/login.defs file (it seems to be though they do) > > $ echo $PATH > /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/games > > $ su > Password: > # echo $PATH > /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin > > To reply to myself: dpkg -S reveals /bin/su on Debian to be from the login package Fedora's /bin/su comes from coreutils. So there is a difference, the latter of course being more modern. Though login's su lets you ctl+c a bad password without waiting for su to return a bad authentication message. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
