On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 12:15 AM, Andrew Farris <lordmorgul@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Attempts to selectively disable services (with the object of disabling > > NetworkManager and NetworkManagerDispatcher) are a problem because the > > reading of the options appears to ignored. The prompt "<service name> > > (C)ontinue/(Y)es/(N)o" (or something of that form) appears, but it's > > necessary to enter at least two carriage-returns with the option, a > > bit of what appears to be Python code for reading the option and > > starting the services is printed and then the service is (possibly) > > started anyway. > > > > Do these messages look like something is wrong with your keyboard input? > Do you have a typical US layout keyboard or something else? That sounds > very much like garbage is getting sent to the script rather than > understandable bytes, and its going 'oh crap' when it cannot find a Y or N. I don't think it's the keyboard. This machine is a Panasonic Toughbook CF-Y5. I just installed Fedora 8 on it with no problems. The exact messages are like this one: Entering interactive startup +confirm fedora-live + '[' -x /usr/bin/rhgb-client ']' + /usr/bin/rhgb-client --details=yes + : + echo -n 'Start service fedora_live (Y)es/(N)o/(C)ontinue? [Y]' Start service fedora_live (Y)es/(N)o/(C)ontinue? [Y] + read answer Y +strstr yY '' + '[' yY = yY '' + return 0 + rc=0 + '[' 0=1 ']' + '[' 0=2 ']' + set +x It seems that if I want to stop a service from starting I can enter "N <enter> N <enter>" but this is not consistent. The last few services started before the machine either goes to a blank screen (or a light blue screen) are: HAL NetworkManagerDispatcher firstboot rhgb-client > > So, any ideas as to how I can get a bit further with testing the > > pre-release? Or capturing better info for reporting whatever is going > > wrong to bugzilla? > > > > You can boot the machine to runlevel 1 or 3 by editing the syslinux boot > menu before it starts the automatic boot. That should let you disable > NetworkManager or NetworkManagerDispatcher to see if those are the culprits. > You can also adjust/edit X configuration from there if necessary before > starting gdm to login (in runlevel 5). Of course. Thank you. I can only plead exhaustion due to looking after a baby for not thinking of those obvious things. Very helpful to be reminded of them. So, I rebooted, hit ESC -> TAB and then added a "3" to the end of the boot options and everything went very nicely to boot into runlevel 3. By a mad impulse I then decided to see what happened if I did a "/sbin/telinit 5". It worked. I was able to boot the (appallingly slow probably due to my 512MB RAM) LiveCD. I saved off some information (dmesg and lspci -vv) in case it was useful. I'm going to back through the /etc/init.d and /etc/rc.d directories and try and follow the order of services one by one in order to pinpoint the differences. Best wishes, Oisin Feeley -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list