Ok, I want to make sure I understand how this works, or at least see if Dan or someone can help explain what/when to use this tool exactly. Soo, is network manager *only* (or at least currently) used on wireless/wired systems (such as laptops obviously) for connecting back and forth? Or is/can/should it be able to be used normally on just a wired desktop system as well with no wireless connection? And if so, does it start up in the proper place, so the proper services will start up and can be used without errors? I know this topic sort of has/is being discussed, but mainly on various topics/problems/bugs. But thought might give Dan an opp. to do a quick run down on what services to have on/off to get it working, and what/will work currently with NM starting on boot, in place of (conjunction with?) normal networking as before. Dan, any chance of a quick summary for us for wireless users and just wired (laptops and desktops) so we can get a better understanding on who can use this and who can't? -- Mike Chambers Fedora Project - Ambassador, Bug Zapper, Tester, User, etc.. mikec302@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list