Re: Too many default services on

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On 03/31/2008 10:35 AM, Chris Ricker wrote:
On Mon, 31 Mar 2008, John Dennis wrote:

My understanding is rpm's which install a service do *not* start the service
in %post via chkconfig for all the reasons cited in the thread (i.e. the sys
admin or owner decides what should be running, how it's configured,e etc.
merely installing an rpm should not start a hidden service). There are a
minority of exceptions, services which must run to make the system usable,
these are well known. It is permissible to perform a condrestart in %post, but
this is just respecting the existing configuration on the box.

AFAIK, there are no guidelines -- look through the wiki and see if you can find any?

I agree that what you're saying is what the standard should be, but other packagers' understanding appears to be something closer to "if it's a non-default package, install should enable since installing means you want it". See, for example, BZ #433408

There may not be guidelines, but we do have precedent and some convincing arguments which should be strongly considered in the absence of strict guidelines. Without strict guidelines, Fedora contributors should use their best judgment but making informed decisions is impossible without being informed.

Some bugs which demonstrate reasons why auto starting services is bad include:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=127552
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=426465

I'm sure there may be others.

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