Casey Dahlin wrote:
This kind of misses the point that with the advent of the personal
computer the user became his own administrator.
For simple administrative tasks we create guis. Theres little reason for
the user to be messing around with the rest of the file system even in
more extraordinary circumstances.
But the guis are incomplete and inconsistent. We could continue this
discussion when there is _no_ reason for the command line in a unix-like
OS, but I don't really expect that to ever happen.
If you turn the OS into a black box appliance with no user-serviceable
parts inside you can do that. Or, just expose unix's inherent
simplicity and let people use it.
There's nothing wrong with a black box as long as its easy to open.
No, a black box is suitable only when it is already perfect for it's job
and never needs to be opened. You can build some appliances like that
for some operations but not a general-purpose OS.
Joe
user doesn't want to know how his computer works. He gets offended when
you try to teach him and blames Linux for forcing him to acknowledge the
physical realities of his machine.
You don't know Joe.
That's part of what's kept Fedora
from pursuing Joe user for so long.
No, the fast-changing interfaces have just made it impossible for anyone
to learn. In spite of the underlying simplicity all anyone sees is
special-case exceptions.
> However, we are now at the point
where we don't have to compromise the system for power users to keep Joe
user safe from his computer. We can have both, we just have to abstract
the system rather than alter it.
No, that's the problem, not the solution. You need to expose the
consistent parts of the system, not hide it behind a million
abstractions that keep anyone from ever knowing what it is doing and how
to take advantage of it. And just get rid of the parts that aren't
consistent.
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