https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/k12linux-devel-list Subscribe to K12Linux Devel List if you are interested in LTSP5 for Fedora. Participating ============= <warren> Warren Togami, Red Hat, Fedora department <pscheie> Peter Scheie, from Minneapolis, K12LTSP advocate & user <dan_young> Dan Young, Multnomah Education Services District <vagrantc> Vagrant Cascadian, one of the maintainers of LTSP in debian <ogra> Oliver Grawert, edubuntu maintainer, ubuntu ltsp dev <mccann> Jon McCann, Red Hat Engineer, GDM and ConsoleKit author and maintainer <cliebow> Chuck Liebow, Ellsworth Schools Maine <mdomsch> Matt Domsch, Fedora Board, Dell <spoleeba> Jef Spaleta, Fedora Board, U. of Alaska LDM (LTSP Display Manager) ========================== Background: LDM runs on the thin client, asks for a username and password, then creates an ssh connection to the server. If it is successful in a user login, it runs a session (like /usr/bin/gnome-session) * The locale bug where ldminfod overflowed ldm due to too many languages from locale -a is fixed upstream, will be in the next Fedora build. * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=435521 ConsoleKit LDM support: Following through to see if ck-launch-session solves our problem. * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=436912 ldm Xsession support: There are some ideas of how to implement this properly upstream. * Longer term (after F9) we will tackle the localization and accessibility problems. Warren will follow up with Jon Mccann to assess the possibility of doing this via gdm intead. LTSP Server =========== http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/K12Linux/InstallGuide ltsp-server package and ltsp-build-client should be equally functional on Fedora 8 and Fedora 9 at this point. Let Warren know if you see any problems. Ugly Warnings during Thin Client Boot ===================================== https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=359621 can't create lock file /etc/mtab/~994: Read-only file system (use -n flag to override) <warren> I eliminated most of them, but the ones involving /etc/mtab are likely impossible to fix. <vagrantc> warren: ah, we make /etc/mtab a symlink to /proc/mounts, and i think mount is less noisy ... and we may also use the -n flag to mount, not sure off the top of my head. SELinux: Chroot Install/Update with Enforcing Mode ================================================== https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=391451 <warren> So currently thin clients have selinux totally disabled. <warren> We currently can't fix this for two reasons <warren> 1) installing a chroot screws with the host kernel's selinux policies, which is sometimes dangerous <warren> 2) we currently only do NFS root boot, and selinux doesn't work with NFS (?) <warren> In the future I hope we can support selinux enforcing thin clients, but that will likely only happen with NBD root. (mkinitrd) implement NBD handling. ================================== https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=424591 <warren> This task unfortunately will be deferred until after F9. There is simply too much work to be done. <warren> Jeremy Katz wants nbd in initrd to be implemented as a mount -o option, so it works exactly like loop mounts. <warren> I can understand why my earlier nbd patches for mkinitrd were rejected, because they want to do it correctly and more cleanly. <warren> We will need to implement it for both nash mount and regular mount so you can use syntax like: <warren> mount -t squashfs 192.168.0.254:2000 -o ro,nbd /path/to/mountpoint <warren> NBD is the kernel's network block device. <warren> I aim to implement this before Fedora 10. <warren> Also we plan on implementing a new DHCP option to direct the client to the right NBD mount point. <warren> I'm working with dcantrell who is part of the IETF DHCP group (?) to write a RFC for this <warren> something like: <warren> option nbd-root "192.168.0.254:2000"; <warren> so the DHCP server can tell clients where to find the NBD, just like DHCP can currently do with NFS roots today. <warren> pscheie, if you install ltsp-server it defines /etc/xinetd.d/nbdrootd I think <warren> pscheie, basically nbdrootd serves a file or partition containing whatever filesystem image to a defined port number Fix pulseaudio launching for remote sound. ========================================== https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=436906 Talked a bit with Lennart after the meeting. The ticket has been updated by Lennart with some advice. Fix ltsp-server-initialize ========================== https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=436907 <warren> ltsp-server-initialize is supposed to be a way to automatically configure a server to be a LTSP server. This is a lower priority for me. This is another great opportunity for somebody to get their feet wet in LTSP development. screen.d/xdmcp and screen.d/ldm should share X prep code. ========================================================= https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=436910 <warren> oops. this already done. vagrantc did most of the work. thanks vagrantc. (ltspfs) Fix cdpinger segfault. =============================== https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=436913 <warren> curiously I haven't seen this crash recently. I'm not aware of any fixes that went in. Keep an eye out if you see it crash. <warren> vagrantc is working on a different way to run cdpinger on-demand via udev. I'll be working with him on this because it is better than the current way. Implement non-PXE boot methods using mkelfimage. ================================================ https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=438103 <warren> I'm working on this now. After talking with vagrantc yesterday I decided to use the update-kernels script in ltsp-client with a few modifications, like NOT touching pxelinux.cfg, yaboot and other boot loader configs. <warren> although dwmw2 claims it shouldn't be necessary to wrap kernel and initrd to boot on linuxbios... going to explore that later. Q-FUNK of artecgroup is sending me a Thincan with linuxbios so I can do actual testing later. FL_TeacherTool ============== http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/Fl_TeacherTool/ http://www3.telus.net/public/robark/Fl_TeacherTool/screenshot.html robark says he will port fl_teachertool to K12Linux. Fedora 9 Release Schedule ========================= http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/9/ This is the Fedora 9 development schedule. This likely means we have until April 7th to get bug fixes in for Fedora 9. LTSP Development Training ========================= We are meeting on Sunday, March 30th at 11AM EDT (1500 UTC) in irc.freenode.net #ltsp for LTSP development training. * Learn how to find and check out the LTSP source repositories. * How to find things in the source checkout. * How to edit things. * How to build your own tarballs/RPMS for your testing. * How to install your test RPMS on your server and client. Warren Togami wtogami@xxxxxxxxxx -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
