Re: few ideas how to make fedora better as a desktop

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Jeff Spaleta wrote:
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Chris Adams <cmadams@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

bin vs. sbin is not at all a security measure, since users can already
run things in sbin just by using the full path (or adding the sbin dirs
to their PATH).

By default its not... but on a multiuser system you can restrict access the
sbin directories
limiting access.. in a way that package updates don't revert your changes.

If our intent is to expose these binaries, and encourage a culture where
normal users can expect access to these paths and the binaries in them, then
it would make some sense to be sure we aren't creating an additional admin
burden that forces admins to re-restrict access to paths that Fedora users
come to expect.... for the sake of limiting access to a handle full of
setuid'd binaries.

Yes it should be carefully considered, but if the administrator has restricted access via perms or acls to those directories, then it will not matter if the user has them included in their path. With access restrictions in place, a normal user typing ifconfig vs /sbin/ifconfig will get the same result -- denied access. On a system where the access restrictions are not in place the result would differ. So if an administrator has restricted them or not should not effect how they behave (whether suid or not); they have access or they don't. The security issue is there right now for suid binaries and the changes discussed so far here should not effect that security issue one way or the other.

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