Hi, You may treat this as some kind of spam, esp. on -devel-list, but see, how long Fedora 8 takes to start (with and without RHGB): http://liviopl.jogger.pl/2008/03/26/bootchart-czyli-wykres-procesu-uruchamiania/ Text is not important. The images are important. After replacing sysvinit by upstart and later, after upgrading to F9, I'll show you another bootchart. And you'll see the difference on usual computer :) . PS: I'm sure you've already done great job in Rawhide :) . -- Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek http://liviopl.jogger.pl/ -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list