On Tue, 25.03.08 17:52, Jesse Keating (jkeating@xxxxxxxxxx) wrote: > On Tue, 2008-03-25 at 17:12 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > Jesse Keating (jkeating@xxxxxxxxxx) said: > > > > So, why do we need this in the default install? > > > > > > Why do we need this at all? Is it time for a block-pkg ? > > > > Well, I could argue why do we need csh, or 20 IRC clients, or apps written > > in Motif/lesstif, or applets that check for new mail by parsing a RSS feed > > in perl (with passwords written to the local disk, yay), and a variety of > > things that I'm sure other people have a need for. Doesn't necessarily mean > > they should be *blocked*, just not in the default install. > > Yes, but if system-config-soundcard isn't actually solving any issues, > are we just maintaining it out of anger? At some point we really need > to ask, what is the point of having this software? Has it outlived it's > usefulness? We can orphan it and see if somebody wants to pick it up, > but we can ask them the same thing, why? I am all for orphaning/removing/killing it now. A lot of bugs have been reported against PA which were actually /etc/modprobe.conf fuckups due to s-c-s. Even as a test program it is not particularly useful. It is obsoleted by all the udev hotplug fancyness. AFAICS there's not a single feature of it left that is not obsolete or even counterproductive. Lennart -- Lennart Poettering Red Hat, Inc. lennart [at] poettering [dot] net ICQ# 11060553 http://0pointer.net/lennart/ GnuPG 0x1A015CC4 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
