Re: default partition scheme without /home - why ?

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Valent Turkovic wrote:
Chris Snook wrote:
Valent Turkovic wrote:
2008/3/10 Jesse Keating <jkeating@xxxxxxxxxx>:
On Mon, 2008-03-10 at 13:34 +0100, Valent Turkovic wrote:
 > Is that on purpose and if it why?

 Guessing how much space you'll need in your non /home partitions over
time is difficult. Only you know how your install will be used. That's why the installer defaults to the easiest thing to guess; How much boot space you'll need, and how much swap space. However since you know how your install is going to be used, you are best to make those estimations
 and setup your /home as you want it.

 --
 Jesse Keating
 Fedora -- All my bits are free, are yours?

Fedora Live CD target audience are desktop users, right? I as a
desktop user haven't seen any need for / partiton over 8-10 GB.
Servers, and other fedora usages may need some other partition schemes
but a default home user has huge benefits from a dedicated /home
partition.

My ogg/mp3 collection is over 20 GB. I generally use a 100 GB /home for my multiboot workstation boxes. For my test systems, I often carve out root LVs that are just a few GB and use that for everything. There's no magic strategy that works for everyone, and putting everything on / allows users to take full advantage of their disk space without having to know how everything is carved up underneath.

It is probable that new users aren't aware that /home partition as a
dedicated partition has advantages and it would be best if anaconda
makes the "smart" partition scheme in which /home is a separate
partition in LVM volume, or a logical partition. Separate home has
lots of advantages that you are aware of, so why not just change the
partition scheme to take advantage of that?

Users who don't understand the concept of separate /home partitions are not going to be able to take advantage of these benefits. For them, creating a separate /home is just unneeded complexity, and it's impossible for us to universally get right.

If you know what you're doing, override the defaults. That's why we have those options in the installer.

If you can come up with a formula that properly handles anything from 2 GB (You can buy a brand-new EeePC Surf with this) to 1 TB, and correctly guesses how many OSes the user plans to multi-boot or virtualize, I'd be glad to go with that, but I can pretty much guarantee that it will piss off more people than the current default behavior, which cannot possibly be wrong, even if it's not always ideal.

-- Chris


Hi Chris,
have you read some other branches from this thread?
There are some great ideas from a couple of people that would work in solving much more that breaking stuff, and would be more time right that wrong.

Please re-read the whole thread and then lets continue this discussion because I don't see that me copy/pasting responses that others have already have given is the right way to continue this discussion.

Cheers,
Valent.

I now see that you have read and posted to some other branches, and also have given some great ideas yourself... that got me confused even more about this your last post.

Valent.

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