On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 5:58 PM, Pete Zaitcev <zaitcev@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 11:48:36 +1000, Jens Petersen <petersen@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > For a long time (actually as long as I can remember;) I wondered why > > Evolution was our default Mail application (MUA). > > IIRC it was a Havoc's decree, together with the attempt to hoist > Epiphany upon us as a part of the over-arching Open Source Architecture. > The main merit of Evo is the integration with calendaring and LDAP. There was a long discussion about the default web browser with the choices of Epiphany or Firefox and the decision for choosing Firefox came from a number of factors beyond the OSA. There were customer needs weighed against the best browser for our users, weighed against the amount of developer resources needed to maintain either choice. Ultimately the decision fell to Firefox, at the time I wasn't in agreement with that decision but it was made using the correct data and feedback; now I completely agree it was the correct choice. Though ephy was my first love... And at the time of that decision Havoc spelled out this future in an eerie prophetic tone about how a future email fight will come sometime after this web browser fight. Welcome to the future! > > So what are the arguments for keeping Evolution as the default Mail > > application in Fedora? This question seems particularly relevant now > > with things like the Lightning calendar extension and the launch of > > Mozilla Messaging. > > Let's see if it moves beyond words. Several fractions tug onto > the Thunderbird's feathers. If it turns into an all-integrating > bloat monster, might as well keep Evo. Watching this thread and knowing both email clients fairly well I'd have to say that consensus seems split and changing a default is a tough uphill battle. There needs to be a significant enough difference between the old default application and the new default for the switch to be worthwhile. It would probably be good for the new default to have a system for converting people from the old default, not that we did that for epiphany to firefox... Here's how I'd sum up the situation. There are lots of different bugs and issues in both apps, t-bird has an advantage of being cross platform so there little learning curve and recognition for people coming from other OSes (this is a often a large boost for firefox). Evolution has the advantage of being better integrated into GNOME with the contacts applet, calendar, and other apps that use the data-server component as well as a fully integrated calendaring system. Evo also has an exchange connector which makes it attractive to companies running an exchange server with a linux client. Since bugs will always be present and should be reported in bug trackers instead of on mailing lists so we need to ignore that in this kind of decision making. Thus in my mind TB would have to at least offer integration points to the desktop similar or better than evo-data-server does now; i'm hopeful this can happen. As for the exchange connector I'm not so hopeful for that, but who knows. An evo question might then be around working windows and mac clients such that users could switch to a linux desktop with some recognition and a low learning curve; i'm not so hopeful this will happen. But I'm wrong all the time and the future is far away! So lets see what happens to t-bird and evo in the future. > I use Sylpheed because it's the only mail client in existence never > to chew patches. Not arguing for making it default or anything, > but it's not all Evo all the time since we had Fedora Extras. I'm marking that down as an idea for a future thunderbird extension, better patch handling. :) ~ Bryan -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
