Hi, I was surprised when I noticed that dbus-daemon lives in /bin. According to old tradition, /bin and /sbin should contain only binaries necessary for Single user mode. In Single user mode, it seems there is a bash and that seems like all; is it really necessary to have dbus that low? Looking into bugzilla, I noticed #104058, "dbus starts too late". In short, dbus has to be started before bluetooth, which in turn has to be started before networking. Now I see that the "traditional" definition is not accurate enough. /usr over network is an important feature of Fedora, which has to be kept in mind. So we have to have (at least some) network support in /bin and /sbin. But there are more and more kinds of networking which need more and more things, which all then should go to /bin. OTOH, even such a low-level thing as glib is not going to be moved to /lib, because "is has always been under /usr". An idea: Couldn't we split the "networking" to two parts? Some of them are suitable for carrying /usr (e.g. eth0), while other obviously aren't (bluetooth connection to my cell phone). So the networks which might be needed for /usr would start very early, while all the bells and whistles about hot plugging modern gadgets would start later and would not pretent that they do not depend on /usr mounted. Cheers, Stepan Kasal -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
