On Tue, 2008-01-29 at 06:48 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 04:13:27PM +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > P.S. Though you've still kept Serif as default Firefox family, which > > *is* an ass-backwards Firefox default we should change, since current > > screens do not have enough resolution to display satisfying Serif > > fonts. > > Mine sure does. > > > -- > Matthew Miller mattdm@xxxxxxxxxx <http://mattdm.org/> > Boston University Linux ------> <http://linux.bu.edu/> > I'd disagree with that unless you have access to HW I have not to, or unless you use really big font sizes. For normal usage serif fonts won't be fit for screens at usual sizes (8 - 12 pt) until good DPI will be used (100 dpi is surely not enough, I'd think >= 150 dpi could be enough though). But I agree with some of the people here, that this thread is about non-existent problem. Firefox should use system default (in my case 8 pt DejaVu Sans/Serif/Mono with the sans one being default) fonts when generic family and relative font size is specified in CSS stylesheet, which is currently not. I still wonder why firefox default font is 16 pt from serif family. System default is usually smaller (unless you have big monitor and sit far from it, or have bad sight) and the webpages just look strange... And yes, liberation is perfect substitution for Arial, but Arial is certainly not the best font out there (like Times it's fit rather for newspapers than for screen). DejaVu have quite good proportions, quite good Unicode coverage (which is being increased gradually) and work good with some other fonts which we install by default and which are substituted when the glyph is not in DejaVu present (like Sazanami font family for Japanese writers). Btw. the best fonts I've seen so far are the TeX fonts (computer modern family), but they are usually too complex for screen, but work excellent when printed... Anyway, what my 2 cents are: please use system wide font settings in firefox instead of its own preferences, it really is strange as it is now. It is not our goal to look like windows. We provide FLOSS fonts that everyone can install on their windows/macos machine, and we give web designers enough choice to make it possible for them to have webpages with very similar look on various platforms. It's their decision whether they want to use some specific font (which can be e.g. for Arial substituted by Liberation Sans in out environment) or whether they want their pages to use system wide font settings (and thus better integrate into desktop). Martin
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