2008/1/28, Nicolas Mailhot <nicolas.mailhot@xxxxxxxxxxx>: > > Le Lun 28 janvier 2008 15:38, Mark a écrit : > > > I have Firefox 3 now on Fedora rawhide and i really disliked the > > default fonts > > That happens > > > so i played a little with it till i got acceptable > > results. > > Thanksfully our font selection is large enough you can find > alternatives (at least for latin) now > > > As you can see in [2] is that the fonts are looking just better. > > No we can't. > > I'm afraid that "looking better" is largely subjective when talking > about fonts. In particular people exhibit a huge bias in favour of > whatever font style they're used to. Take any decent modern font, > force a user to use it exclusively for a month, and he'll > systematically prefer it afterwards in tests. (hey, some people even > ended up liking Luxi *shudder*) > > So the only thing you've proved is you're used to a style similar to > Liberation Sans, probably Arial. Had you spent the time to accustom > yourself to Fedora defaults you'd be finding Liberation Sans terrible. > > Given that Liberation and DejaVu are about similar quality-wise, and > some people will hate one and others the reverse, other considerations > like encoding coverage and upstream reactiveness prevail, and right > now DejaVu wins those. > > P.S. Though you've still kept Serif as default Firefox family, which > *is* an ass-backwards Firefox default we should change, since current > screens do not have enough resolution to display satisfying Serif > fonts. > > P.P.S. Likewise Mozilla developpers decided at some time monospace > should be scaled down for no particular good reason, and site authors > are still fighting this error back with CSS hacks > > P.P.P.S. Also your screenshot exhibits the fugly color fringing of > subpixel hinting. It may have been your misguided choice, or the > effect of rawhide currently ignoring user settings to use grayscale > only. In any way it's not the fonts fault. > > Regards, > > -- > Nicolas Mailhot Nice analyzing but your off by far. first: saying : "No we can't." is a very final answer which is, at this moment, only yours and not said by others. With the font changing i wasn't trying to mimic a well known other operating system that is used by about 90% of the desktops. I was trying to get it back the way it was in Firefox 2 on fedora. Firefox 3 seemed to change the fonts greatly and i wanted it back to the normal view of FF2. For the rest it is looking better with those Liberation fonts (i wonder why that isn't used throughout fedora..). And for: "Also your screenshot exhibits the fugly color fringing of subpixel hinting" i noticed.. that's since i updated to rawhide. i don't know what the issue is in that place. i tried playing with gnome's font settings but up till now haven't got good results. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list