Michael Schwendt <mschwendt.tmp0701.nospam <at> arcor.de> writes: > It may be "OK" in general, but it was very disappointing. Fedora Legacy > leadership was not willing to learn from mistakes. As you may remember, > Fedora Legacy started inside bugzilla.fedora.us, copied also the fedora.us > package submission/review/approval process, including the corresponding > bugzilla keywords. It had one foot in the grave already at the start. This > resulted in updates waiting several weeks for approval, simply because the > people providing those updates were treated as completely untrusted or > incapable and were not permitted to publish any updates without prior > approval. They had to wait endlessly for another person to sign off the > updates, and obviously, even fewer volunteers were interested enough to be > responsible for approving updates. For a project where speed does matter > this was inacceptable and drove away or scared off contributors. I pretty much agree it was the extremely burdensome QA which killed Fedora Legacy (it got relaxed a bit later on, but it was still too big of a burden and most of the potential contributors had already given up). Insistence on not trusting Bugzilla's authentication (requiring GPG signatures of Bugzilla messages) didn't help streamline the process either. I think a FL-like project with _no_ QA (i.e. working like FE used to (as soon as the package is built, it gets signed and released in the next push), but without ACLs or even a honor-based concept of maintainership like in the old FE) would be more likely to work. If someone wants to fix a security issue in a package, let them do it and push the package immediately as soon as it's available. Kevin Kofler -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list