On Tue January 15 2008, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > Karsten Hopp wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Till proposed in bugzilla #311061 to use alternatives in vim-enhanced > > and vim-X11 so that > > both of them can provide /usr/bin/vim. His reasoning as that when gvim > > gets started as vim > > (via a symlink) it opens the text mode vim with the additional benefit > > of xterm clipboard support. > > How does this differ from using gvim -v? It is more complicated that to run "vim". Running "vim" will always open an editor, even when gvim is not installed. I guess the reasons are the same why someone uses "gvim" instead of "vim -g". > > I agree with the /usr/bin/vim stuff, but I think a better solution would > > be to add a conflict between > > vim-X11 and vim-enhanced. vim-enhanced is only of use on systems without > > X11/gtk. On all other > > systems vim-X11 can provide the same (and more) functionality as > > vim-enhanced. > > alternatives is not a good solution for end-user apps on a multi-user > system because the admin is setting a preference that is really better > left to the user to decide. The user can set this preference using an > alias (alias vim='gvim -v'). > Conflicts precludes the ability to have both versions installed in case > one user of the system wants one thing and a different user wants > another. Additionally, we are trying to get rid of unnecessary Why should one want to use vim without X support, when vim with X support is installed? The only difference afaik is that it loads maybe some 1/100 of a second faster. Another issue is that maybe someone wants that vim-X11 is substituted by vim-enhanced when vim-X11 is removed because e.g. X11 is removed. But this does not mean that both binaries need to be installed all the time to make the user happy. > What are you trying to achieve? Perhaps it would be simpler to get rid > of the vim-enhanced package? Or perhaps what we have now is the > simplest solution. For a user it is a very annoying situation. When one installs vim-X11, the binary /usr/bin/gvim) cannot be run with all possible names, e.g. vim, vimdiff, view, ... And running it with, e.g. "gvim -v -d" instead of "vimdiff" is also annoying. Regards, Till
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