On Thu, 2008-01-10 at 01:19 +0100, Patrice Dumas wrote: > It isn't that simple. Do we also want community handle on fedora or > not? I really like redhat leadership and innovations, but I don't want > to be a puppet either. If people from the community with specific needs > and wants are to be accepted in fedora, it means that radical simplicity > is not possible. Oh nice. Now you're playing the "RH vs. community" card. Priceless. News flash: this is _not_ about RH vs. the community. It's about realizing that software development is _hard_. It's about realizing that throwing options and toggles at the problem very very rarely gives you something good. What it does give you is a lot of confused users (look around; we're getting better but it's still really bad) including e.g. UI crap for selecting the driver stack of the week or whatever. This essay is more than five years old http://ometer.com/free-software-ui.html I suggest you read it. It's not completely related to this topic but if you think about it long enough there's some glaring analogies to be made. David -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list