On Sun, 2008-01-06 at 17:48 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On Sun, 2008-01-06 at 10:44 -0500, Yaakov Nemoy wrote: > > and almost always putting at least some code in shared > > memory space, asking for Python in particular is not unreasonable. > I could not disagree more - To me any init-script system requiring > anything outside of what POSIX requires is a mis-conception and flawed > design. How is that? I guess if we looked hard enough then we'd find that even today we use things outside of POSIX to get the machine going, things which we can't do without. Just because something is an established standard, it's not necessarily sufficient: One of the problems we have with SysV style init scripts are the numerous forks and execs which are costly. I don't see how we could solve that problem while using shell (or other tools included in POSIX). Granted, we could source the init scripts from one master script to avoid that, but then we'd be quicker in a cesspool of clashing global variables or one badly written script killing the whole boot process than we'd want to imagine. If I'm just being unimaginative, I'd be interested in how this problem can be solved while limiting oneself to what POSIX offers. Nils -- Nils Philippsen / Red Hat / nphilipp@xxxxxxxxxx "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." -- B. Franklin, 1759 PGP fingerprint: C4A8 9474 5C4C ADE3 2B8F 656D 47D8 9B65 6951 3011 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list