Last week, I said the heck with it and did a yum update to rawhide from F8+updates. It performed OK but upon boot, x didn't want to come up, and think the error messages was about version mismatches or something. Well, just now, I was going to do a fresh rawhide install on same machine (wipe out F8 completely), but when it got to starting X to perform the install, it wouldn't run, not even in vesa (from the quick msg I saw come across), so it went into text mode (which I cancelled at that time). Would it had worked if I had went ahead with the text mode install, then tried to get X configured to start post-install? So, is xorg not fully functioning as of yet, with the new compiles that went on recently and I am guessing still happening? This was on a PIV 2.8Ghz w/1G ram, and an X1300 ATI card. -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY "The best lil town on Earth!" -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list