Hello, Related to Jesse's "I care when it looks like ass compared to the other apps I have open" message in the recent K3b thread: Getting GNOME apps to look decent in KDE sessions is somewhat painful currently. Not only does one need to configure their settings in the GNOME control center (which I can understand and live with even though it's suboptimal), but that is not enough. No settings persist accross session unless one gets something to start gnome-settings-daemon. Without gnome-settings-daemon running, many GNOME apps display broken/missing icons, and do not honor the settings I've configured in GNOME control center (eg. font sizes, themes). For examples of broken icons log in to a fresh KDE session, and open GNOME control center itself (the initial view shows lots of broken icons) or the nm-applet context menus. For examples of my font size being ignored, any GNOME app seems to do. Where should this be fixed? Shouldn't GNOME apps that use settings governed by the daemon get the daemon running if needed? Can't GNOME apps be made to look semi decent (eg. no broken icons) without the daemon running? What if gnome-settings-daemon isn't even installed? Should KDE start gnome-settings-daemon when a session starts? This is on F8. I've traditionally "fixed" this locally by installing a ~/.kde/Autostart/gnome-settings-daemon -> /usr/libexec/gnome-settings-daemon symlink but I think this deserves a real fix somewhere so that things just work. -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list