Raleigh, we have a problem... python-gammu, which is required by wammu, prevents users from updating to the latest gammu release for several days now. It has already been reported in Bugzilla, see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=426848 and - even more interesting - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=425831 This leads me to some questions: 1. Why is # 425831 still in status "New"? It has been reported on Dec 16th and the maintainer already responded to it. 2. What's so difficult to coordinate 2 (3 with wammu) dependent packages? All are owned by the same packager. IMO this should be done in one single update in bodhi. 3. Do we need better training for our maintainers or more documentation in the wiki? The broken deps already appeared in EPEL before they were in F8, so the maintainer should have known that he's breaking something when he did the gammu update in Fedora. 4. When was the testing done? gammu-1.17.0-1.fc8 was built on Dec. 22 11:22:28 MST [1] and hit the updates repo on Dec. 23 22:50:08 [2]. This is less than 36 hours for testing. 5. Why has gammu been pushed directly to updates and not to updates-testing? According to the changelog it was not a security update. Note that I don't want to blame a single person here. I think this is just an example that we really NEED to think about how to avoid such situations in the future? I know there are people on vacation these days, but there are enough people that offered help. Unfortunately they are not allowed to by the ACLs. Any thoughts? Christoph [1] http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=28966 [2] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/F8/FEDORA-2007-4743 -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list