Le lundi 17 décembre 2007 à 10:36 -0500, Colin Walters a écrit : > On Mon, 2007-12-17 at 16:34 +0100, Patrice Dumas wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 10:24:04AM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: > > > > > > The virtual consoles will still be around, but really should only be an > > > emergency fallback. The right way to do this is to log in via gdm, and > > > select a session that gives you a fullscreen shell (with tabs, windows, > > > virtual desktops) etc. > > > > A display manager should not need to be installed. On servers, for > > example http servers you want an http server to be installed and that's > > all. No X server, not even X libraries (if possible). > > Yes, we're not talking about servers here. Please don't repeat the NetworkManager "everything is a laptop with no background services and we don't care about the rest" mess. I personally have no problem making X a server requirement. X is nothing compared to some of the bloated apps we have nowadays. The problem is not X but X userspace infrastructure that assumes it can do all sorts of wasteful things because it's in a user session. And it needs to be streamlined for OLPC-like uses anyway. Purging the crazy X/non-X stack duplication we managed to grow and drilling in desktop developers heads they need to be more careful would more than make up for the X cost (a bad CLI solution to avoid X and a bad X solution to avoid treating server cases makes two bad solutions installed concurrently on most Fedora systems). However I *do* have a problem with "everything is a complete gdm session" approach. Where does stuff like sound/video PVR streaming server fit? Is it supposed to grow a separate audio backend now? -- Nicolas Mailhot
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