On Mon, 2007-12-17 at 10:24 -0500, Colin Walters wrote: > On Mon, 2007-12-17 at 10:17 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 17, 2007 at 09:44:48AM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: > > > > - user logging in on vty. > > > > - user logging in on vty and running startx/xinit > > > These will be going away - just run X with a fullscreen shell. > > > > Wait, what??? > > The virtual consoles will still be around, but really should only be an > emergency fallback. The right way to do this is to log in via gdm, and > select a session that gives you a fullscreen shell (with tabs, windows, > virtual desktops) etc. I think someone is assuming the wrong thing about why people use virtual, text-based consoles. I don't know about others, but the only reason I use VCs these days is when X won't work or something is hogging the system resources and I have to use a minimalistic shell to fix it. I don't think supporting sound via PulseAudio is a big issue for occasional VC users. But again, if PulseAudio starts itself automatically either via its library or some other trigger (such as a socket open request), it wouldn't even be an issue. > This gives us one supported login path for local machines, and avoids > all the brokenness that occurs with multiple concurrent logins to a > shared home directory. As much as I laud the attempt to incorporate smooth usage of shared home directories, I wouldn't do it at the expense of other "features" that other uses might want such as a VC or a different login manager. <emphasis>Not that I'm asking everything to be supported.</emphasis> I'm just hoping no one starts lopping off other features for causing "breakage". -- Richi Plana -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list