Am Sonntag, den 02.12.2007, 22:58 -0800 schrieb Andrew Farris: > Stewart Adam wrote: > > On Sat, 2007-12-01 at 23:40 +0100, Linus Walleij wrote: > >> Depends on how you define boot time. If you say boot is done when the > >> system is interactive, you cut several seconds. > >> > >> "Other OS:es" obviously use this approach, the perceptual being what > >> matters. > >> > >> Surely, this must be fixable, it'd be such a boost.. > >> > >> Linus > > That's exactly what I mean - An early login can make the boot seem to > > boot much faster even if it really isn't. Waiting is what makes things > > seem long; the faster the user interacts, the faster things seem. > > > > Stewart > > Sure thats true, but perception is also just a fake improvement, and once the > user gets used to seeing the login earlier... I want to login more quickly and start gnome-terminal, sometimes Firefox. What do other people want to do? > they'll get more and more > discontent with how long it takes to be usable after they logged in (afterall Better stay away from that slippery slope of progress then! > they *already logged in*). For a great example of why this can be frustrating, > install a copy of Vista; its 'boot time' is great, Yep. It's really fast, versus Fedora which takes a couple of minutes. > but you login and wait... and > wait... and wait. When you do see the desktop you still can't do anything > useful I can load putty or Firefox. That's quite useful. > with it because the system is still so heavily loaded with background > processes starting. Its much the same with xp, but vista made it even worse, > while the 'boot time' is even lower. Works for me. Resume takes just a few seconds too. > I have always appreciated the fact that a machine thats STARTED in linux can be > logged into quickly and be useful with minimal delay. The general case with > windows which delays many background processes until login is that you can boot > your system and walk away to get coffee... but when you come back you'll still > sit there waiting after login before you can work. > > I'm only bringing up the windows comparison for contrast, because MS has been > working hard to bring about this same early login illusion. > > Making the system *actually usable* sooner is where development time and effort > should be spent rather than spending time to fake it. If a valid argument can > be made for a method to get desktop software to begin processing earlier due to > early login then lets talk about that. If its nothing more than login without > letting CPU cycles go toward the desktop startup then why bother? > > -- > Andrew Farris <lordmorgul@xxxxxxxxx> <ajfarris@xxxxxxxxx> > gpg 0xC99B1DF3 at pgp.mit.edu > > No one now has, and no one will ever again get, the big picture. - Daniel Geer > ---- ---- > -- fedora-devel-list mailing list fedora-devel-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-list
